Friday, May 4, 2012


The Liberals are the first of the province's three major political parties to announce a date for a leadership convention to select a new face to lead them into the 2015 election.

Liberals will select a new leader in November 2013 at the St. John's Convention Center. Currently there are four names being knocked about: interim leader Dwight Ball,  Paul Antle, Dean MacDonald and St. Barbe MHA Jim Bennett.  Ball is the only one to have stated that he will seek the job.

I expect that come the fall of 2015, all three parties will have new leaders in place.

 Certainly the NDP will have a leadership process prior to the next election. Leader Lorraine Micheal is in her 70th year. Potential replacements include: MHA Dale Kirby, Lana Payne, MP Ryan Cleary and MHA Gerry Rogers.

Premier Dunderdale will have punched in the four years necessary to base her pension on the Premiers salary by 2013. I expect she will leave the role in 2014 making room for a early Spring leadership race in 2015.

Renewal may be on the lips of the Liberals but it is on the minds of all three parties.


Wm. Murphy said...

Potential replacement....Gerry Rogers??? Where do you come up with this?

Peter L. Whittle said...

Murphy man, I am not saying who I would pick or who would make the better leader..just who will be in the race.

Many in the NDP feel she is being groomed for the job.

Wm. Murphy said...

Name ONE person in the NDP that feels that.

Peter L. Whittle said...


Come on boy, naming names is not cool. Sure you don't even use yours!

Honestly, I think it would be a mistake. She is much too flamboyant but you have to look at the traditional power brokers in that organization and the pull of the feminine movement.

Just have a look at the support that was given to the candidates in the recent federal leadership. Peggy Nash had a very strong united front amongst the same group that I think would lean towards Rogers.

Anonymous said...

Jim Bennett. Are you serious.

Peter L. Whittle said...

First off, anyone who wants to run can? Brad Cabana has shown that twice.

I think Jim would make a good liberal leader. He certainly has shown tenacity and leadership.

Why not?

Anonymous said...

What about Paul Dicks? There is someone the media could wine about!

Anonymous said...


Bennett would be a great liberal leader if the goal was less seats than they have now. He is a poor speaker with very little charisma and prob has little chance of retiring the debt based on these qualities alone.

I get that he jives with your romantic version of a fishery that frankly needs change. You throw around that term "disaster capitalist" quite liberally (excuse pun) . In fact the whole industry is a disaster and that includes the processers but starts with your romantic view of fishermen. I get this is a family business with a lot of history but frankly the taxpayer has funded enough shenanigans in this industry . They appear to be the only people in a risk free industry. Ice is bad go ask govt for money. Nets get tore up go ask govt for money. Quotas get cut go ask govt for money. Operate as a business claim a bunch of business tax credits still get pogie. My point in writing all this is that it fine to criticize the processers . I agree they need to be better but it is not correct to leave out the fishermen. They are their own disaster capitalists with their own agenda. And the union. Well that is just plain a disaster.

Peter L. Whittle said...

I am not advocating for anyone, just saying who might be interested. Remember many are called few are chosen. Who am I to say someone can or can not run. If they think they can win, it is up to them to prove it.

The cannibalism that was the sale and division of FPI is as good an example of disaster capitlaism as you are going to find.

The other issues facing the fishery are another issue all together. FPI left alone, would have weathered the storm. The Risley FPI and the aftermath was a guaranteed recipe for those plants to meet the same fate as all the others.

Where in my postings am I critical of the processors? My qualm is with the sale and division of FPI. Those plants could have and would have had a future.

You have the ability to read right, to see a point. To separate the two? I assume you know I am saying disaster capitalism not that capitalism is a disaster?

Government's abdicated its responsibility o to protect the population of these towns because they felt that entrepreneurs, driven by the profit motive, are always more efficient. Just read the quote at the beginning of this process. Five years later Harbor Breton, , Marystown, Port Union are closed. Fortune and Bonavista will be next. The marketing arm has been absorbed by highliner. That was all they wanted, Burin was the real cost of the purchase, Not exactly the stronger industry that was promised in 2006, but is a vivid example of disaster capitalism.

I'll go a step further, this broken model you talk about can not be replaced by a future of disaster apartheid in which the wealthy are saved and everyone else is left behind.

Anonymous said...

Peter, what evidence do you have that FPI would have weathered the storm? I can only think of one way that could be the case, and that would be infusion of cash by the provincial government.

Your claim is unprovable at this point because we actually will never know.

Anonymous (May 5, 2012 7:58:00 AM) tagged it pretty well I figure.

Peter L. Whittle said...

It would be hard to produce any evidence, as you say FPI was done away with.

What I do know is that the FPI model worked well. Shareholders and workers were happy. The most lucrative part of FPI was the marketing and secondary production arms. Highliner seems to be doing well, that tells the tale of how well the old FPI would have worked in similar conditions. Again the concept of the more profitable parts of the company back filling the less profitable made the company hole. Each individual part of the company did not have to make it or break it.

The infusion of provincial government funds to create the company in the first place to be sold for next to nothing is something you might want to consider.

As I have said the marketing arm offset other loses.

Anonymous said...

I don't think it's the least bit hypothetical to say that if FPI had not been raided by Risely and Clearwater..than divided for sale by the PCs that things would be different in Maystown, Harbor Breton and now Burin.

A former FPI manager